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***QUESTION***
I have to admit your material is dead on the money. C & F works
great, and your analysis of how the female mind works answers a lot of
questions I've had.
While I am loath to admit it, I am a 22 y/o virgin. When girls find out
about this they almost always ask why? Some girls have even gone as far
as to change their minds about sleeping with me because I was a virgin.
They claimed that they didn't want to risk giving me a bad first time,
but I smell some BS there. I know girls read into everything, so what
are they reading into the fact that I'm a virgin and is there any
explanation I can give that won't have me looking like a loser?
Thanks
D.S. Chicago
David D.>>>MY COMMENTS:
Wow. I really admire the fact that you're willing to reach out and ask
for help. Most guys are so caught up in themselves and their problems
that they wind up suffering in silence... and, of course, are worse off
because of it.
I'm going to give you an "outside the box" answer for your particular
situation (even though it sounds like you've been doing quite a bit of
"out of the box" thinking all by yourself... I know, I just couldn't
help myself).
Here it is...
Don't talk about it.
Don't "explain" it in the first place.
Many problems in life are ILLUSIONS.
And yours is one of them.
Think of it this way...
Your dad, grandfather, great-grandfather, and so on, all the way back to
the first humans figured out how to have sex for the first time. It's
not that big of a deal, man. I recommend that you focus on learning how
a woman's body works, how to get her turned on and keep her turned on,
etc. rather than focusing on YOURSELF... which is what you're doing.
If you can make a woman feel incredible physical pleasure, she won't
care if you're a virgin. In fact, she won't ask or even bring the topic
up, because she'll be feeling so good that the thought will never cross
her mind. It is not your obligation as a person to inform the person
you're about to sleep with that you've never had sex before... lol.
Great email...
***QUESTION***
I am recently divorced and am 32 years old. Haven't dated since I was
21. So I have just kind of thrown myself back out there. A friend of
mine told me about you and this newsletter so I started reading it and
am fascinated by your advice. I have always been the nice guy - ready
with an honest compliment and holding the door etc. Its not an act - its
just how I am. But I seem to be sensing a problem with this...
With my friends and gal pals I get the "you're too nice" comment all the
time. I am still trying to figure out how you can be too nice. How can
you be too much of a gentleman. Is this truly something that can kind of
trip you up dating these days, if you are like me.
Thanks
DK - Denver, Colorado
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ah yes, the big realization that "nice" isn't always "good". I'm going
to give you a piece of advice that could be PRICELESS to you. Get my
Advanced Dating Techniques program. It will change your entire
perspective of how the world works (at least when it comes to dating and
relationships). I guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that you will get
TREMENDOUS benefit from it.
Why do I just recommend my program rather than giving you an
explanation? Because I can tell from your question that you need more
than a short answer. You need a new understanding of WHY "nice" doesn't
attract women... and what to do instead. I was a "nice" guy for a lot of
years of my own life, and I honestly believed that I was doing the
"right thing".
It only makes sense, right?
How could it POSSIBLY be true that ANYTHING other than "niceness" could
lead to success with women? Well guess what?
It IS true.
And if you don't take the time and make the investment in yourself to
LEARN what you need to do, you're going to suffer a lot longer than you
need to. Trust me on this one. If, for some reason, you can't afford my
program at this point in your life, then stay tuned to these newsletters
for hints. There are a lot of good ideas here. But if you can afford it,
get it.
Women don't feel those powerful, magical, GUT-LEVEL emotions for "nice"
guys. It may suck, it may not be "fair", it man not be "right" or
whatever. Get used to it. It's reality.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Hey Dave,
I attended your seminar in January and have almost all of your materials
(guys you've got to get the new interview series, it'll blow you away,
and is VERY affordable). I am finally starting to "get it." Here's an
example: I recently met a girl online (she responded to my personal ad)
and we got together a few evenings ago. She stayed the whole evening and
after some verbal teasing (C&F) things progressed physically. Teasing
her with smooth kissing & touching then pulling away really seemed to
turn her on (2 steps forward 1 step back). Later, after making out, I
playfully tried to kick her out of my apartment. I said things like
"isn't it past your bedtime, I need to sleep, don't you have to work
tomorrow, don't your cats need food," etc. Well she didn't leave until 8
the next morning :) and even then she didn't want to leave, but had to
go to work. We've exchanged several emails since, in which I've really
busted her balls, she remains very interested and we're meeting again
soon.
I learned a few things here. Not only did proper use of the C&F and 2
steps forward, 1 step back concepts build sexual tension & anticipation,
but trying to get rid of her (playfully), as counter-intuitive as it may
seem, actually drew her closer. I realized that in general, being
willing to walk away is so powerful because it shows you're confident
and not needy, in control of yourself (and your hormones), and instantly
makes you a challenge she must work for, all of which makes her want you
more, not less. This worked especially well because I had set up the
relationship properly first (i.e. created ATTRACTION).
This definitely shows a big improvement in my "game." Keep the great
materials coming!
N. from Salt Lake City (yeah you know me)
>>>MY COMMENTS:
What can I say? You're the man...
It's clear to me that you've gotten to the point where you can
UNDERSTAND what is going on... and you've reached the point where you
can actually control yourself (and those hormones). Nice!
Now, QUIT EXCHANGING "A FEW EMAILS" so fast! Give her room to miss you
and think about you. Give her at LEAST a day or two off here and there
to think about you... but not hear from you. If you do not, you'll feel
the tide begin to shift, her interest begin to fade, and you'll be
wondering what happened.
Now keep up the great work!
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dear David:
I have been receiving your emails for a few weeks now, and wanted to
pass along a success story of my own.
I heard something on the radio few weeks ago that grabbed my attention.
The caller said that he just walks up to women he sees, and asks them
for their bra or panties or both. (He only tells them that he collects
them.) Well, after reading your emails, I thought this was a great C&F
thing to try. I went out last Saturday night, and I saw an attractive
woman and told her that I was collecting women's underwear, and that I
wanted hers. After the shock wore off, she got up and went into the
bathroom. When she came out, she handed me her panties and said, " I
swear to God, if you sniff these, I'll kick your ass." Well, I couldn't
resist. I turned around and stuck out my butt. She smacked it, and then
I sniffed her panties! Again, she was so shocked she just stood there
looking at me with her mouth open. Well, to make a long story short,
when I left a few minutes later, she was giving me her number without my
even asking for it!!! I would never have thought of doing something like
this before reading your emails, let alone actually doing it. You've
changed my life. Thank you
B. B.
Casper, WY
>>>MY COMMENTS:
I don't know what to say to this one, except for "I had to include this
one". Guys, try this one at your own risk...
But it makes for some damn good reading. Maybe it's something in the
water there in Casper, Wyoming...
***QUESTION***
Hey Dave,
Great stuff. I got your e-book a while back, and it has totally changed
my attitude and approach towards women. It’s helped me tremendously in
meeting and talking to them. I can’t wait to get your advanced series.
My dilemma is is that I’m only 5-2, I weigh 120 lbs., and I’m balding,
to top it off (pardon the pun). I know from experience that most females
will pretty much have nothing to do with a guy as short as I am. On the
rare occasion, when I can meet someone who isn’t so worried about
height, I have no problem being c & f and making them laugh. But even
they seem to not take me so seriously. I even tried my luck online, but
again, it’s the rare female that responds to me. Credit to those who do,
they usually are a ton of fun to talk to, and could care less how tall a
guy is. Any recommendations (short of platform shoes or stilts) on
different approaches I could use to change my luck with them, and make
them realize that personality’s more important than height?
T in FLA
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yea, my recommendation is that you stop thinking that you have a
"dilemma". You have what you have. Calling it a dilemma, thinking of
your size as a problem, and trying to figure out "tricks" or techniques
to deal with your "problems" isn't the answer.
Do this:
Boldly approach every woman you're interested in as if you're the
greatest opportunity she will ever have. Learn how to overcome your own
issues with yourself. Stop talking about "luck" as if it's the reason
why you're unsuccessful with women. Approach each new woman with an open
mind, and realize that every one is different.
Most importantly...
If you are rejected, shut down, criticized, put down, laughed at, or
whatever is the WORST thing you can think of, GET OVER IT. You'll get in
a car every day without thinking about it, and drive down a road at 60
miles per hour, NEARLY MISSING every single car that goes by in the
other lane... literally taking your LIFE into your hands... with NO
FEAR... but you're allowing your concept of how women are biased against
you IMMOBILIZE you.
Stop that!
Your whole "I know from experience that woman won't have anything to do
with a guy that's as short as I am" thing is BS! I have a friend who's
about 5'4" or so who is ALWAYS surrounded by hot women. In fact, a
DIFFERENT friend of mine who's also shorter dates some of the hottest
women in the world.
Your limitation is in your mind. Sure, women PREFER taller guys ON
AVERAGE. But your limiting belief sucks. Get rid of it.
***QUESTION***
Hey D,
I'm a 20 year old guy, i work in a grocery store and am attending
college. I read your newsletters but haven't gotten around to buying
your book yet. Anyway, here it is, I use your C&F techniques with women
that i meet, get their numbers and email, etc. but when we go out, not
like a date, just to the clubs, or parties, or whatever. Most of the
time even though i was the one who did everything, the girls always
seemed to be more interested in my friends than in me. I don't act to
needy or clingy or wuss like (i once was, but after reading some of your
newsletters i realized i was being more of an ass than anything).
anyway, can you help me out here? later.
T in elba
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well what are you doing, man? You get a woman's email and number, then
call her, then get a date with her... then take her like A PARTY? Or
even WORSE, a CLUB?
Duh.
The whole idea of getting a girls email and number is so you can spend
more time ALONE with her. If you want to hang out with women at clubs,
DON'T TAKE YOUR OWN, dumbass.
Here's my recommendation:
When you're arranging your first date with a girl, tell her to come to
your house, and that you'll go to coffee or tea with her from there.
Then, when you're finished with your beverages, tell her that you want
to show her your new Spiderman comic books. ANYTHING is better than
taking a girl to a party, dude.
Stop it!
Oh, and quit being lazy, and download my eBook. It's going to make your
life a lot better, and fast.
***QUESTION***
David,
I've never really had any problems getting numbers from girls. I have
been using your guidelines even before I knew what they were. I always
keep it short and to the point. No fancy pick-up lines just say "hi" get
a little personal info, crack a joke and bam I'm off, usually with a
number in hand ( or in phone ). But lately I've been testing out a new
strategy that has been getting very positive results. I wanted to see
what your insights were and whether you had any additional advice on the
subject.
The strategy is pretty simple, I just blow girls off. I start off acting
very interested, ie.. getting a number or name, and then I let that
marinade with them for as long as it takes for them to break down.
Usually they keep pestering me to call them, hang out, whatever. I just
keep acting like ( not telling them outright ) I will call or that we
will go hang out "sometime". Being a college student, eventually I see
these girls out on the weekend at a club, bar, party or any social
gathering, and they are so excited that I'm finally in a place to hang
out with them hooking up is almost too easy. Anyway. what do you think?
Good? Bad? And what are the possible negative
aspects of this strategy.
J.C.
Knoxville, TN
>>>MY COMMENTS:
The only possible "negative" aspects of this strategy are:
1) You might have to get a new phone number because you'll have so many
women calling you.
2) You may need to move as well to avoid the stalkers.
You're on the right track BIG TIME here. This is gold, pure and simple.
Now you're talking.
***QUESTION***
Dave
I recently met this lady and after a little chit chat she gave me her
email. I sent her an email a couple days later which basically said that
i would like to get to know her. She did not respond to the email, but
two days later I saw her and she came to me and said thank you for the
note. My question is whether or not she is worth pursuing?
L
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Not. Oh, and stop sending emails to women that say "I'd like to get to
know you".
Be interesting.
Be fun.
Say crazy stuff.
Play.
Bust her chops.
ENERGY!
Did you read my last newsletter?
Boring is BAD.
You sound boring to me.
Bad.
***SUCCESS STORY**
David,
I've been getting your newsletters for a few weeks now and I realized
something. When I was younger I was very successful with women because I
didn't care about a relationship. I'm 30 years old now and somewhere
along the line I started behaving differently because I was looking for
someone to settle down with. That is when I started having problems
meeting women. By reading your newsletter, I made the connection as to
why I was successful in the past. It had nothing to do with how I
looked, but my attitude.
Last week I decided to put your methods to the test. There's this girl
that had been flirting with me at a weekly gathering some of my friends
attend. At the end of the night I made my move and she shot me down
cold. When I asked what all the flirting had been about she said that it
was all in good fun. The next week I started the cocky & funny routine.
She pulled me outside, threw her arms around me and said, "Kiss me!" I
blew her off and made some smart ass comment. She just stood there
staring at me like she couldn't believe what had just happened. I just
stared back and refused to break eye contact. Eventually, she looked
away, slapped me on the arm and said, "You're bad!" Later on we made out
on the balcony and then she asked what I thought. In a sarcastic tone, I
said, "It was alright."
She playfully punched me in the arm and I went inside and acted like
nothing had happened between us. It was great to turn the tables on her.
If I've started having success just by reading your newsletter, I can't
wait to order your materials.
S, Oklahoma
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Gold star for you. You get it. Your letter should be read by every
living single man, period. Thank you, and good night.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dave,
I just got your Advanced Series in the mail last week and I've been
studying left and right for the past 7 days. It is thoroughly
phenomenal!!! In my life, I've never heard such powerful techniques for
attaining lifestyle success - this is a godsend to me! Thank You so
much!!
Now, to the success...I went on a road trip yesterday to Indianapolis to
visit a friend and stopped off at the shopping mall to pick up a few
shirts. There was a smokin' black girl working in the store and I
reallllly wanted to approach her so I say, "Excuse me, Fashion
Goddess..." and hold up two shirts to compare, "...if you saw me at a
party wearing one of these shirts, which one would you find me most
attractive in?" "The green one", she replies. I say to her, "Well, I'll
make sure not to get that one, then...see, I've been trying to avoid
unstable women lately." Dave, this woman's jaw just drops to the floor -
I broke right through her brat barrier in no time flat.
So, we flirt for 10 minutes or so...and I TELL her - not asking her - to
take her lunch break with me, because I'm hungry and I need someone to
buy me lunch. Well, of course, she did and she bought me lunch after 10
minutes of flirting and ball busting. And, as a side note, she was 27
and seemed to be very experienced with guys and I JUST TURNED 21 this
week - she knew this first hand and didn't even care...I made her feel
attraction off the bat and, as you say, "No amount of logic (or age
differences) could convince her otherwise". PHENOMENAL!!!!! I'll
definitely get together with this bombshell next time I'm in town.
Thanks Dave, this stuff is absolutely changing my life!!! I can't wait
for some of the new products!!!
Ciao!
DF
Bloomington, IN
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ah, another man that gets it. You've pointed out a personal favorite
little humor trick of mine...
Leading a girl to think that you're saying one thing, then turning it
completely around. Another example:
You sit down to eat at a restaurant, and start talking to the cute
waitress.
You start flirting with her. She flirts back a little bit.
Next, you ask her what she thinks the best thing is on the menu.
After she answers, you either say:
"Well, if your taste in food is even half as good as your taste in men,
then it must be damn good."
or...
"Well, I just wanted to know what to avoid... so I'll make sure to NOT
order that."
Good stuff. Killer flirting material. Thanks for your email... keep it
up.
***QUESTION***
Hi Dave,
I just bought the advanced CD series & it's amazing what a difference
they make over the book. Being able to listen on the way to work, whilst
out doing chores, etc. is cool. I can feel the confidence building
inside me, it’s like my own personal coach.
The C&F doesn’t come naturally to me at present so I’ve taken your
advice and am using the internet as a 'woman simulator' in order to
practice. I’ve had mixed results so far, I think a few took the teasing
the wrong way as some of them would suddenly stop replying. I must be
better at the C&F than I thought though. The first time I went on this
site I was chatting to a few girls and one of them ended up giving me
her mobile and asking if we could go for coffee before I had chance to.
Anyway my question: You suggest that a date should simply be 'tea &
stimulating conversation', which for all of the reasons you give makes
perfect sense to me. But once I've done the tea & conversation with this
girl, do you have any suggestions for other dates where I can come
across as the 'lover' instead of the 'provider'. The only one where I
wouldn't end up having to shell out (buy her stuff) that I can think of
is a walk along the river or something, but that's rather dependant on
the weather. Thanks for changing my life.
AIB – London, UK
>>>MY COMMENTS:
You're welcome for changing your life. Glad to help. Now, on to your
question...
Other "date" ideas...
I'm going to answer your question with one of my favorite "not quite
answer your question" type of answers. I think that you need to REALIZE
something. You need to REALIZE that a "date" is just an IDEA. It's a
CONCEPT. You don't need to "go out" on "dates" with women.
I went for several months of my life without "dating" women...
But during those months I "saw" a TON of women.
How did I do that? Look, a "date" is a nice idea. You meet a girl, you
like her, you offer to take her out and show her a good time in order to
prove to her that you're a nice guy.
What ACTUALLY happens? It backfires.
You wind up spending a bunch of money, paying for her attention, going
places that are loud or uncomfortable, and basically saying to her in a
subtle way that you don't have what it takes to attract a woman, so you
need to take women "out" instead.
Here's my point. Think about the CENTRAL MESSAGE that I'm really
communicating in that program. What I'm saying is that you can be the
kind of man that women want to be around. In other words, you can become
so damn interesting and stimulating to women that they want to be with
you, no matter WHAT the situation happens to be.
Look, I have women call me that I haven't talked to in months or even
YEARS... who just call up to say "Hi, how are you? I'd like to see you
sometime". Is it because I buy them things? Or because I write them love
letters? Or take them out a lot? No way.
It's because they remember how they FEEL when they're around me. And
they want MORE. Of course, I'm not the only guy in the world that is in
this situation. I know many guys who have this very same thing happen to
them a lot. Stop thinking about where to TAKE women, in the "physical"
sense, and start realizing that you can TAKE a woman somewhere
EMOTIONALLY with your communication and behavior that will make the
PHYSICAL LOCATION unimportant.
Now, to answer your question... lol...
Try fun things like:
-Tell her that she's going to the grocery store with
you because you need to shop.
-Pick her up and go to a museum. They're often free, and you actually
get to learn something at the same time.
-Play pool, air hockey, or something else that's FUN. It's cheap, too.
-Go to a mall or funky shopping area and just walk around.
...there are a million ideas for where to go.
But pay attention to what I said earlier. It's not important where you
go. It's important who you are when you get there.
Did this article shine some light on your present dating success and
how you can improve? Sure it did.
I know it did, because I've been there. As a result
of my sharing what I know to guys like you, (I receive emails from guys
every day that have dating advice questions) I can honestly say that you
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